Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: Dr. What to Denn on Wed Jul 24 2024 07:32 am

So Kamala is put in without being chosen by democrats?
No primary, no voter input at all, Ilegal backroom deals that
circumvent voter laws and the constitution.
Why aren't voters outraged?

Because Democrat voters are sheep.

True, as bad as Joe is Kamala would be worse, she's to the left of Bernie.

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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: Dr. What to Denn on Wed Jul 24 2024 07:34 am

Rules not followed, Kamala is not an incumbant presidential
candidate, therefor should be primaried, there are several Democrats
that would like a shot.

But they've already filled out the fake ballots and trained the illegals to vote for Joe and da Ho. They don't have time to switch candidates.

That could be true Lol.

I thought that Democrats were used to that by now.

I wonder how many will still just write Joe in as a protest to Kamala.
Kamala is running heavy on the abortion issue, I think that will go bad for her.

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Denn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

What laws were broken?

Rules not followed, Kamala is not an incumbant presidential candidate, therefor should be primaried, there are several Democrats that would
like a shot.

Seems wrong that the people have no choice here.

Not illegal. The big dog in the room gets the vote through all sorts of "unfair" means before the convention -- on both sides.

"Demanding" that Biden step down for no legal reason, trying to impeach
Kamala Harris - it all seems like a desperate ploy to get the speaker of
the house in power.


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Re: Re: Democrats get screwed by leaders.
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Wed Jul 24 2024 06:22 am

Not illegal. The big dog in the room gets the vote through all sorts of "unfair" means before the convention -- on both sides.

Weather it's legal or not, People are have Kamala forced on them, no choice by the people whatsoever.

"Demanding" that Biden step down for no legal reason, trying to impeach Kamala Harris - it all seems like a desperate ploy to get the speaker of the house in power.

There are good reasons to have Joe step down, how can he run a country if he's menally incompetent?
and Kamala the so callled border tsar who let 10 million Ilegal Aliens into the country is good reason to impeah her.

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Re: Re: Democrats get screwed by leaders.
By: Denn to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 24 2024 10:03 am

There are good reasons to have Joe step down, how can he run a country if he's menally incompetent?

Had he remained in office and deemed mentally incompetent by medical professionals, I would support him stepping down. I'd rather not deal in hypotheticals, however, since President Biden hasn't been deemed incompetent and he stepped down willingly.
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Re: Re: Democrats get screwed by leaders.
By: Denn to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 24 2024 10:03 am

There are good reasons to have Joe step down, how can he run a country if he's menally incompetent?

I heard when Biden announced he dropped out of the race, he only said he thought it would be in the best interest of the country to focus on his current presidencial tasks, and he didn't say why he's dropping out. I've heard speculation that while it may be obvious to most people, if he said he dropped out because of his health issues, that would mean he's probably not even fit to be president right now.

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Re: Re: Democrats get screwed by leaders.
By: Denn to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 24 2024 10:03 am

Had he remained in office and deemed mentally incompetent by medical professionals, I would support him stepping down. I'd rather not deal in hypotheticals, however, since President Biden hasn't been deemed incompetent and he stepped down willingly.
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We can all see how mentally impaired he is.
Let's have a couple of non partisan Doctors check him out.

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Re: Re: Democrats get screwed by leaders.
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Wed Jul 24 2024 10:30 am

Had he remained in office and deemed mentally incompetent by medical profession ls, I would support him stepping down. I'd rather not deal in hypotheticals, ho ever, since President Biden hasn't been deemed incompetent and he stepped down illingly.
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I think it is very clear he stepped down willingly, for a very flexible definition of "willingly".

I mean, you don't willingly announce 10 times that you are not stepping down, while half your supporters and allied media have turned on you and are demmanding you quit, and suddenly you declare yourself sick and say you are eventually not running.

IMO the whole thing was staged from the get go. Somebody in the party wanted to get rid of Biden so they let him participate in the debate, knowing it would cause his removal due to preasure.


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Rules not followed, Kamala is not an incumbant presidential candidate, therefor should be primaried, there are several Democrats that would like a shot.

I have heard several names floated of Democrats that other Democrats are interested in but, so far, I have not seen any of those potential
candidates actually say they want to run.

Do you know of any who've said they want to challenge Kamala at the
convention?

Seems wrong that the people have no choice here.

It does, but it has happened before. Look up the 1968 DNC. In 1968, LBJ stepped out of the race after winning the New Hampshire primary but also realizing he was polling badly in other states. His VP, Humphrey,
ultimately inherited his delegates and his campaign. A couple of months
before the DNC, RFK was assassinated. He was running second in delegate
count at the time to Humphrey (whose lead included the former LBJ delegates). RFK's delegates remained mostly, if not entirely, uncommited to any candidate.

So the Democrats went to their convention in Chicago without a presumtive nominee. A few states were represented by rival slates of delegates so it
had to be worked out which slate for those states would be seated.

Ultimately the frontrunner, VP Humphrey, was nominated.

I don't see a rival delegate situation happening here (although it still could). Sounds like most state Democrat parties are pledging their
Biden delegates to Harris, in part because she is the only one who can
legally take over his already collected campaign funding. Any other
candidate would have to start over raising funds.


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Re: Re: Democrats get screwed by leaders.
By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 24 2024 04:34 pm

I think it is very clear he stepped down willingly, for a very flexible definition of "willingly".

I mean, you don't willingly announce 10 times that you are not stepping down, while half your supporters and allied media have turned on you and are demmanding you quit, and suddenly you declare yourself sick and say you are eventually not running.

he's very sick now and i think covid affected his mind this time and he can't go on longer.

they made the decision for him. dude was not going to step down from running. once obama said he should rethink shit that's when the plan was set in motion. biden had nobody on his side.

I think biden might be in a hospital bed right now hooked up to a ventilator.

during the debate i think whatever drug cocktail they give him didn't work and that didn't help things either.

cant keep juicing up that guy with drugs.
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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Denn <=-

There are good reasons to have Joe step down, how can he run a country if he's menally incompetent?

Had he remained in office and deemed mentally incompetent by medical professionals, I would support him stepping down. I'd rather not deal
in hypotheticals, however, since President Biden hasn't been deemed incompetent and he stepped down willingly.

Dude. You have *got* to stop slurping the koolaid, before permanent
damage is done. It may well be too late, already.

You've watched him attempt to speak and even *walk* in public in the
last few months. You *can't* actually believe he is not mentally
compromised.



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Re: Re: Democrats get screwed by leaders.
By: Nightfox to Denn on Wed Jul 24 2024 11:56 am

There are good reasons to have Joe step down, how can he run a
country if he's mentally incompetent?

I heard when Biden announced he dropped out of the race, he only said he thought it would be in the best interest of the country to focus on his current presidential tasks, and he didn't say why he's dropping out. I've heard speculation that while it may be obvious to most people, if he said he dropped out because of his health issues, that would mean he's probably not even fit to be president right now.

I listened to his address to the nation, It was mostly him taking little jabs at trump while trying to make himself out to be a saint.

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Denn wrote to Dr. What <=-

I wonder how many will still just write Joe in as a protest to Kamala.
Kamala is running heavy on the abortion issue, I think that will go
bad for her.

It's already going bad for her. She's saying things that only appeal to the most radical of the radical left. It's almost as if they are trying to make her crash and burn in a spectacular fashion.

One of the things I've learned is to recognize the redirection tactics of the Elitists. If they want to draw your attention someplace, it's because they don't want you paying attention to something else. So I always start looking for what they don't want me to see.

And the Ho's campaign is a redirection tactic.


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I wonder how many will still just write Joe in as a protest to Kamala.
Kamala is running heavy on the abortion issue, I think that will go bad for her.

For what it is worth, not long before the assassination attempt, Trump requested that the RNC remove the anti-abortion plank from the party
platform. They did so.

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I heard when Biden announced he dropped out of the race, he only said he thought it would be in the best interest of the country to focus on his curren
presidencial tasks, and he didn't say why he's dropping out.

Other than it being time to pass the torch to a younger generation, you are correct.

I've heard
speculation that while it may be obvious to most people, if he said he dropped
out because of his health issues, that would mean he's probably not even fit t
be president right now.

Correct. Admitting to mental issues would have certainly brought "right
now" into question.


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Had he remained in office and deemed mentally incompetent by medical professionals, I would support him stepping down. I'd rather not deal in hypotheticals, however, since President Biden hasn't been deemed incompetent
and he stepped down willingly.

We can all see how mentally impaired he is.
Let's have a couple of non partisan Doctors check him out.

Because he has stepped out of the race and only has a few months left,
unless he starts showing some serious symptoms between now and then, it
would be better for the Republicans to leave him alone and not be seen
as picking on him.


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I mean, you don't willingly announce 10 times that you are not stepping down, while half your supporters and allied media have turned on you and are demmanding you quit, and suddenly you declare yourself sick and say you are eventually not running.

IMO the whole thing was staged from the get go. Somebody in the party wanted t
get rid of Biden so they let him participate in the debate, knowing it would cause his removal due to preasure.

As I said before, I don't think they expected him to last four years. Not
only did he do it, he wanted to run again. They went along with it until
the debate, then realized they needed to pull the plug.


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I think biden might be in a hospital bed right now hooked up to a ventilator.

He may have been but he was out yesterday. He was looking and sounding
better than during the debate when he gave his remarks regarding his
withdrawl from the race.

I just watched it again. I don't believe it is AI. He always looks funny.


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Re: Re: Democrats get screwed
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Jul 25 2024 09:59 am

I think biden might be in a hospital bed right now hooked up to a ventilator.

He may have been but he was out yesterday. He was looking and sounding better than during the debate when he gave his remarks regarding his withdrawl from the race.

I just watched it again. I don't believe it is AI. He always looks funny.

you need to get a clearer video. watch the mouth.
if you have seen several ai videos you can spot that this one is.
also look at the distortion behind him.
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I just watched it again. I don't believe it is AI. He always looks funny.

you need to get a clearer video. watch the mouth.
if you have seen several ai videos you can spot that this one is.
also look at the distortion behind him.

To me he always looks funny, and has been known to sit in front of either a green screen or a backdrop. He seemed like pretty normal Biden to me.


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It's already going bad for her. She's saying things that only appeal to the most radical of the radical left. It's almost as if they are trying to make her crash and burn in a spectacular fashion.

Unfortunately, she is polling well with Gen Z (who apparently see her as
some sort of "bumbling genius" whose mastery of the cringe moment somehow
makes her appealing) and is ahead of Trump in some polls.

One of the things I've learned is to recognize the redirection tactics of the Elitists. If they want to draw your attention someplace, it's because they don't want you paying attention to something else. So I always start looking for what they don't want me to see.

And the Ho's campaign is a redirection tactic.

So you are saying she won't run? Assuming she won't win is dangerous. 20,
or less, years ago most people would never believe that Trump or Biden
would ever be President and yet here we are. She could unfortunately be
the next "no way!" on the list.


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Re: Re: Democrats get screwed
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Jul 26 2024 09:37 am

I just watched it again. I don't believe it is AI. He always looks funny.

you need to get a clearer video. watch the mouth.
if you have seen several ai videos you can spot that this one is.
also look at the distortion behind him.

To me he always looks funny, and has been known to sit in front of either

a
green screen or a backdrop. He seemed like pretty normal Biden to me.

like i said, look at the mouth. if you've seen ai videos before, you'll know this is a fake. there's strange lack of movement in the face and artifacts in
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So Kamala is put in without being chosen by democrats?
No primary, no voter input at all, Ilegal backroom deals that circumvent v laws and the constitution.

Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.

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But they have to be from different states technically. And be of
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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: halian to Denn on Sun Aug 04 2024 07:58 pm

No primary, no voter input at all, Ilegal backroom deals that
circumvent v laws and the constitution.

Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.

Voters had Kamala pushed on them, no primary no choice.

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Denn wrote to halian <=-

Voters had Kamala pushed on them, no primary no choice.

Just like Hilary was pushed on them.

So just par for the course from the group that wants to "Save Democracy!"


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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: Dr. What to Denn on Mon Aug 05 2024 07:10 am

Voters had Kamala pushed on them, no primary no choice.

Just like Hilary was pushed on them.

So just par for the course from the group that wants to "Save Democracy!"

They want free choice, but then they're OK with being duped by the're Elitist snobs.
It's fun watching the snake eat its tail.

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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: halian to Denn on Sun Aug 04 2024 07:58 pm

So Kamala is put in without being chosen by democrats?
No primary, no voter input at all, Ilegal backroom deals that circumvent
v laws and the constitution.

Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.

Republicans always talk about the "good old days" and how they want to take America back to how it was in the mid-20th-century.


None of them realize what they'd be giving up. The modern primary system started in 1984. A primary system existed prior to that, but as recently as 1968, candidates were selected that did not win the popular vote of the people. Hubert Humphrey won over Eugene McCarthy, Humphrey was not an announced candidate during the primaries.


I guarantee that most people don't understand how the primary system works in this country.



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Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates f president and vice president are chosen.

But they have to be from different states technically. And be of particular ages.

You're not wrong! But it's silent about the candidature process specifically.

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So Kamala is put in without being chosen by democrats?
No primary, no voter input at all, Ilegal backroom deals that circum
v laws and the constitution.

Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates president and vice president are chosen.

Republicans always talk about the "good old days" and how they want to ta America back to how it was in the mid-20th-century.

More like the mid-XIX c.... or earlier.

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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: halian to Denn on Sun Aug 04 2024 07:58 pm

Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.

Yeah, you'd think the democrats being screwed over by the process would be complaining about it, instead of republican pundits and self-proclaimed constitutionalists.
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Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for president and vice president are chosen.

Yeah, you'd think the democrats being screwed over by the process would be complaining about it, instead of republican pundits and self-proclaimed constitutionalists.

In all seriousness, I actually wouldn't expect many/any who were planning
to vote for Biden to really complain or even care, even if there is
something wrong with how it happened. All they care about is keeping the
Bad Orange Man from being President again.

Just like most MAGA Republicans don't care if Trump is guilty of any
felonies or not. They just want him to be President again.


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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: poindexter FORTRAN to halian on Sun Aug 25 2024 08:01 am

Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates
for president and vice president are chosen.

Unless I'm mistaken... (Article 12)

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

-- the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate
and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed;

and if no person have such majority, then from
the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Mon Aug 26 2024 10:56 am

Just like most MAGA Republicans don't care if Trump is guilty of any felonies or not. They just want him to be President again.

Here's the sad thing...

1. Those "crimes" were NOT Federal. they were CIVIL. Bragg turned into Federal matters, which by definition, he has NO MERIT in prosicuting them. He's CIVIL not FEDERAL.

2. How many others in NY have done the same thing and were NEVER taken to task? HE WAS MADE THE EXAMPLE. Why? Because he's RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. That's why hay don't go afer Joe Blow. He's "little fish", while bagging the whale, would look great on your resume.

3. As they spend all this time and money on Trump, NYC is dying. Fuck the shitizens, let's go after a "bigger target". I'm from NY, and right now it's a SHITHOLE. All these ILLEGALS need to get DEPORTED.

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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: KnightMare to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 27 2024 09:07 am

Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: poindexter FORTRAN to halian on Sun Aug 25 2024 08:01 am

Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates
for president and vice president are chosen.

He's breaking news, alright.
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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: KnightMare to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 27 2024 09:07 am

Breaking news: nothing in the US Constitution dictates how candidates for
president and vice president are chosen.

Unless I'm mistaken... (Article 12)

[... snip ...]

That dictates how the President and Vice President are chosen. not how CANDIDATES are chosen.

"Primaries" weren't the primary thing until about 1960. JFK had such overwhelming support with primary elections that he was able to get first ballot nomination at the convention. However in 1968, even though Eugene McCarthy won the most primary votes, Hubert Humphrey won the delegate count. Humphrey wasn't even on 17 of the primary ballots.

after the clusterfuck that was the 1968 primary, the modern primary era of "binding primaries" began. However, this is not "law" but rather rules adhered to by each party on the state and national level.

The DNC and the RNC are not government agencies. They can select whoever they want in any way they want as their candidate.

"The Robot Rule" is what binds delegates to vote for the candidate they were elected to support via the primary. (at least for the Democrats)
Rule 11(H): all delegates to the convention are "to vote for the
presidential candidate whom they were elected to support for at least the
first convention ballot, unless released in writing by the presidential
candidate."

I'm pretty sure that's why Biden posted a letter of withdrawl rather than just making a speech about it. (insert joke about Biden's inability to speak here)

No laws are stopping a political party from organizing a Caber toss to pick their candidate.

If members of the Democratic Party are upset with how Kamala Harris was chosen, they can express that displeasure in multiple ways, including voting for another candidate in the general election, by witholding donations (if they were planning on donating), letters, protests, etc.




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3. As they spend all this time and money on Trump, NYC is dying. Fuck the shitizens, let's go after a "bigger target". I'm from NY, and right now it's a
SHITHOLE. All these ILLEGALS need to get DEPORTED.

Yes, this is the saddest part. Some have suggested that the Trump
prosecutions are just a side-show to keep us distracted from other, more important things that are going on. This would have to be one of those
more important things.


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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: DaiTengu to KnightMare on Wed Aug 28 2024 12:22 pm

I'm pretty sure that's why Biden posted a letter of withdrawl rather than just making a speech about it. (insert joke about Biden's inability to speak here)

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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: Dumas Walker to KNIGHTMARE on Wed Aug 28 2024 10:35 am

Yes, this is the saddest part. Some have suggested that the Trump prosecutions are just a side-show to keep us distracted from other, more important things that are going on. This would have to be one of those more important things.

Wasteful grandstanding. At what cost? People are already sick and tired of the dog and pony show. We can all see right through it. He needs to continue in order to "show face" ro his cronies. Quite frankly, as long as Soros is taking in air to his lungs, the madness will continue. If someone needs to take a permanant dirt nap, it's that crusy corpse devil of a man.



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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: KnightMare to Dumas Walker on Thu Aug 29 2024 08:13 am

the dog and pony show. We can all see right through it. He needs to continue in order to "show face" ro his cronies. Quite frankly, as long as Soros is taking in air to his lungs, the madness will continue. If someone needs to take a permanant dirt nap, it's that crusy corpse devil of a man.

biden might already be on his deathbed. i predict after the election he will pass away 'in his sleep'.

people have shot video of a biden who is very very tall and they say he's a body double.
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In all seriousness, I actually wouldn't expect many/any who were
planning to vote for Biden to really complain or even care, even if
there is something wrong with how it happened. All they care about is keeping the Bad Orange Man from being President again.

Just like most MAGA Republicans don't care if Trump is guilty of any felonies or not. They just want him to be President again.

I would love for a re-roll of the primaries where a different Republican and Democrat ran.
Dean Phillips versus Ron DeSantis. That would be a race of two men with integrity than the other
three people. (Trump/Harris/Biden).



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I would love for a re-roll of the primaries where a different Republican and Democrat ran.
Dean Phillips versus Ron DeSantis. That would be a race of two men with integrity than the other
three people. (Trump/Harris/Biden).

I would also. Lots of Democrats were hoping for a re-roll with an open convention when Biden dropped out, but his turning around and endorsing Kamala sort of shot that in the foot.


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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: Dumas Walker to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sat Aug 31 2024 09:56 am

I would love for a re-roll of the primaries where a different Republican and Democrat ran.
Dean Phillips versus Ron DeSantis. That would be a race of two men with integrity than the other
three people. (Trump/Harris/Biden).

I would also. Lots of Democrats were hoping for a re-roll with an open convention when Biden dropped out, but his turning around and endorsing Kamala sort of shot that in the foot.

Does biden's endorsement even matter to anybody but the rabid democrats with tds? i swear someone is going around in a biden mask to keep up appearances. I'm sure after the election he will have 'passed in his sleep'.

there's this video on instagram where this guy is showing off a mission impossible style latex mask and it looks very real if you have sunglasses on.
that's what i think of when they show biden getting off a car and going
into an air plane.

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Does biden's endorsement even matter to anybody?

Nope, he does whatever the deepstate tells him to do.

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Re: Democrats get screwed by
By: Denn to MRO on Thu Sep 12 2024 12:29 pm

Does biden's endorsement even matter to anybody?

Nope, he does whatever the deepstate tells him to do.

The Lizard People that run the Deep State Illuminatus would never allow anyone to discover them.

Therefore your version of "The Deep State" doesn't actually exist and is just your cowardice showing.

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Does biden's endorsement even matter to anybody?

Nope, he does whatever the deepstate tells him to do.

In this case, I think he endorsed her out of spite after he was forced
aside.


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