• Brave browser

    From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to All on Sat Sep 7 19:43:00 2024
    Hello all,

    Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some
    stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
    good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and
    it seemed pretty decent. Thinking about trying it on Linux but wanted
    to know if there are any first-hand experienced user stories on it.

    Thanks.



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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Gamgee on Sat Sep 7 21:06:48 2024
    Re: Brave browser
    By: Gamgee to All on Sat Sep 07 2024 07:43 pm

    Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser.

    I am using it in Windows 10 on my main machine. Haven't tried it in Linux, but it is on my list...

    I really like it a lot more than Chrome - don't use Chrome on my PCs anymore but my work forces me to use it on their machines.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Bf2k+ on Sun Sep 8 07:50:00 2024
    Bf2k+ wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Brave browser
    By: Gamgee to All on Sat Sep 07 2024 07:43 pm

    Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser.

    I am using it in Windows 10 on my main machine. Haven't tried it in Linux, but it is on my list...

    I really like it a lot more than Chrome - don't use Chrome on my PCs anymore but my work forces me to use it on their machines.

    Okay, thanks for the feedback.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Gamgee on Sun Sep 8 18:10:57 2024
    Re: Brave browser
    By: Gamgee to All on Sat Sep 07 2024 07:43 pm

    Hello all,

    Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some
    stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
    good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and
    it seemed pretty decent. Thinking about trying it on Linux but wanted
    to know if there are any first-hand experienced user stories on it.

    Thanks.

    I don't use it myself. I use firefox with some hardcore privacy configuration and LAN-level advertisement and tracker blocking instead.

    I have some friends who use Brave. They like it because of the easy ad-blocking for the most part. I think it does a good job blocking Youtube advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the opinion people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Arelor on Sun Sep 8 19:16:00 2024
    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Brave browser
    By: Gamgee to All on Sat Sep 07 2024 07:43 pm

    Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some
    stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
    good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and
    it seemed pretty decent. Thinking about trying it on Linux but wanted
    to know if there are any first-hand experienced user stories on it.

    I don't use it myself. I use firefox with some hardcore privacy configuration and LAN-level advertisement and tracker blocking instead.

    Okay thanks. I use both Firefox and Chromium now, but it seems like
    more and more sites want me to turn off ad-blocking (via browser
    extensions), or they won't show me content.

    I have some friends who use Brave. They like it because of the easy ad-blocking for the most part. I think it does a good job blocking
    Youtube advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the
    opinion people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD

    I don't spend too much time on Youtube, but do look at some things there
    now and then. Thanks for the feedback.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Sun Sep 8 19:22:09 2024
    Re: Brave browser
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Sun Sep 08 2024 06:10 pm

    advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the opinion people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD

    Why is that?

    Nightfox

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Mon Sep 9 13:52:56 2024
    Re: Brave browser
    By: Nightfox to Arelor on Sun Sep 08 2024 07:22 pm

    advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the opinion people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD

    Why is that?

    Many reasons. First of all, it is a low quality service. It is loaded up with soooo much advertising, and the mother company is coming up with lots of crazy ideas (like DRMing layer 7 protocols) in order to make you eat even more advertisements. Think of deals like forcing you to use web browsers without ad-blocking capabilities in order to visit their sites and then strongarming other webservices to do the same. Unlikely to succeed, but using the service gives them power, and that is to be avoided.

    Then there is also the fact that auto-moderation sucks and that they are removing any content that does not feel happy-flower enough for them. Many Spanish channels that docummented stuff like industrial security got canned because apparently if you talk about bad stuff such as "amputations" and "dismemberments" or whatever your videos get auto-canceled.

    I think none of the crap above should be normalized.




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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Mon Sep 9 08:23:00 2024
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Sunday 08.09.24 - 18:10, Arelor wrote to Gamgee:

    Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some
    stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
    good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and
    it seemed pretty decent...

    I have some friends who use Brave. They like it because of the easy ad-blocking for the most part. I think it does a good job blocking Youtube advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the opinion people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD

    This site seems to compare privacy features across different
    browsers. Looks like Brave is ultimately the best in that
    regard.



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Mon Sep 9 18:52:00 2024
    I have some friends who use Brave. They like it because of the easy
    ad-blocking for the most part. I think it does a good job blocking
    Youtube advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the opinion
    people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD

    This site seems to compare privacy features across different
    browsers. Looks like Brave is ultimately the best in that
    regard.

    OOOOPS.. I hit S)end too soon, and forgot the link:

    https://privacytests.org/


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Ogg on Wed Sep 11 03:59:15 2024
    Re: Brave browser
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 09 2024 06:52 pm

    This site seems to compare privacy features across different
    browsers. Looks like Brave is ultimately the best in that
    regard.

    OOOOPS.. I hit S)end too soon, and forgot the link:

    Something not mentioned is that Brave has native Tor support. They consider it a core feature.

    I have not checked the list because it requires Javascript, but if default Brave gets more private than a Tor Browser with the security level set to "Safer", it is really impressive.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Wed Sep 11 07:03:33 2024
    Re: Brave browser
    By: Arelor to Ogg on Wed Sep 11 2024 03:59 am


    Something not mentioned is that Brave has native Tor support. They consider it a core feature.

    I have not checked the list because it requires Javascript, but if default Brave gets more private than a Tor Browser with the security level set to "Safer", it is really impressive.



    hold on a second. using tor is NOT secure.
    use at your own risk.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to MRO on Wed Sep 11 14:54:37 2024
    Re: Brave browser
    By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Sep 11 2024 07:03 am

    hold on a second. using tor is NOT secure.
    use at your own risk.

    We are talking about identifying data leaks in this context. Without taking Tor into account, the browser component itself is very tightly closed down, specially if you turn the dial of safety presets upwards.

    I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure. Exit nodes may attempt to sniff at your traffic, but since every modern service you may use on the clearnet is encrypted then it does not make much of a difference, not to mention if you don't use Tor you give the chance to watch your traffic to even more people.


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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Gamgee on Wed Sep 11 22:36:00 2024
    Hello all,

    Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
    good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and it seemed pretty decent. Thinking about trying it on Linux but wanted
    to know if there are any first-hand experienced user stories on it.

    ³ I avoid it like the plague for a few different reasons:
    ³
    ³ 1. It's a Chromium fork, thus polluting the browser market with false choice ³ 2. It's inextricably linked to cryptocurrency (specifically BAT)
    ³ 3. It's run by outspoken anti-LGBTQIA+ activist Brendan Eich
    ³
    ³ I currently use Floorp (a Firefox fork) with æBlock Origin. ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Your time was wasted by ̹ƒlian

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Arelor on Wed Sep 11 22:38:00 2024
    [snip]

    I don't use it myself. I use firefox with some hardcore privacy configurat and LAN-level advertisement and tracker blocking instead.

    ³ That reminds me that I need to set up Pi-Hole on either my desktop or my
    ³ Raspberry Pi Zero W....
    ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Your time was just wasted by ̹ƒlian

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Wed Sep 11 21:17:18 2024
    Re: Brave browser
    By: Arelor to MRO on Wed Sep 11 2024 02:54 pm

    I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure. Exit nodes may attempt to sniff at your traffic, but since every modern service you may use on the clearnet is encrypted then it does not make much of a difference, not to mention if you don't use Tor you give the chance to watch your traffic to even more people.

    i wouldn't trust it. you're sending your data through random people, most of them not very nice people. furthermore the us govt developed it and released it to the public.

    it's worse than just using the internet on your own connection.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to halian on Thu Sep 12 08:05:00 2024
    halian wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
    good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and
    it seemed pretty decent. Thinking about trying it on Linux but wanted
    to know if there are any first-hand experienced user stories on it.

    <Stupid "color codes" removed>

    I avoid it like the plague for a few different reasons:

    1. It's a Chromium fork, thus polluting the browser market with
    false choice
    2. It's inextricably linked to cryptocurrency (specifically BAT)
    3. It's run by outspoken anti-LGBTQIA+ activist Brendan Eich

    I currently use Floorp (a Firefox fork) with æBlock Origin.

    1. Okay, so a Chromium fork is "bad", but a Firefox fork is fine.
    Got it.

    2. Inextricably? It's a simple opt-out choice at initial browser
    setup.

    3. I don't give a shit about something like that.

    ------------------------------- Your time was wasted by }{ƒlian

    You got one right.

    Must be that time of the month - you show up and dump 15 messages or so
    across the echos, and then disappear again for a month. Do us all a
    favor and don't come back next month, eh?



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HALIAN on Thu Sep 12 09:29:00 2024
    I avoid it like the plague for a few different reasons:

    1. It's a Chromium fork, thus polluting the browser market with false choice

    Most all browsers, including now Microsoft's Edge, are forked from either Chromium or the Mozilla/Firefox family tree. IIRC, Opera is now a fork of
    one or the other, and Safari might be the only well-known browser left that isn't a fork of one of those two.

    I currently use Floorp (a Firefox fork) with æBlock Origin.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    See. ;)


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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 12 08:52:58 2024
    Re: Brave browser
    By: Dumas Walker to HALIAN on Thu Sep 12 2024 09:29 am

    Most all browsers, including now Microsoft's Edge, are forked from either Chromium or the Mozilla/Firefox family tree. IIRC, Opera is now a fork of

    I think the point was it just not to be Chrome or Chromium.

    Firefox just announced something about AI in its browser. I'm hoping the FF forks leave that stuff out.

    There was that other browser engine for a bit, Electron? I think that one might've gone over to the Chromium side too, if I'm not mistaken.

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to phigan on Thu Sep 12 20:19:00 2024
    º I think the point was it just not to be Chrome or Chromium. ÈÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ [quote from phigan]
    º Exactly. >.>
    ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ

    º Firefox just announced something about AI in its browser. I'm hoping the FF
    º forks leave that stuff out. ÈÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ [quote from phigan]
    º As do I. I'm sick of AI worming its way into everything, and
    º enshittification more generally.
    ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ

    º There was that other browser engine for a bit, Electron? I think that one
    º might've gone over to the Chromium side too, if I'm not mistaken. ÈÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ [quote from phigan]
    º I wasn't aware that it was ever *not* Chromium-based. :o
    ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ Your time was just wasted by ̹ƒlian

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thu Sep 12 19:39:00 2024
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Wednesday 11.09.24 - 21:17, MRO wrote to Arelor:

    I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure. Exit nodes may
    attempt to sniff at your traffic, but since every modern service you may
    use on the clearnet is encrypted then it does not make much of a
    difference, not to mention if you don't use Tor you give the chance to
    watch your traffic to even more people.

    i wouldn't trust it. you're sending your data through random people, most of them not very nice people. furthermore the us govt developed it and released it to the public.

    The Exit nodes can potentially monitor your internet activity,
    keep track of the web pages you visit, searches you perform,
    and messages you send. No doubt some government institutions
    are operating exit nodes.

    But isn't there more confidence in privacy and encryted
    sessions when using .onion destinations?


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Fri Sep 13 07:40:10 2024
    Re: I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure
    By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Sep 12 2024 07:39 pm

    The Exit nodes can potentially monitor your internet activity,
    keep track of the web pages you visit, searches you perform,
    and messages you send. No doubt some government institutions
    are operating exit nodes.

    But isn't there more confidence in privacy and encryted
    sessions when using .onion destinations?

    if it's going through us govt nodes then encryption and privacy is probably useless.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PHIGAN on Fri Sep 13 08:36:00 2024
    There was that other browser engine for a bit, Electron? I think that one might've gone over to the Chromium side too, if I'm not mistaken.

    There is WebKit. Epiphany is based on it. However, it could very well be another name for Chromium or Mozilla/FF for all I know. :)


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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 14 01:52:00 2024
    |01º|07 There is WebKit. Epiphany is based on it. However, it could very |01º|07 well be another name for Chromium or Mozilla/FF for all I know. :) |01ÈÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ|09 [quote from Dumas Walker] |01º|07 WebKit is the browser engine underpinning Safari, as well as the |01º|07 browsers built into the PS3/Nintendo 3DS and onward.
    |01ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ |03Something something |11̹ƒlian

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Ogg on Sat Sep 14 06:58:43 2024
    Re: I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure
    By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Sep 12 2024 07:39 pm

    and messages you send. No doubt some government institutions
    are operating exit nodes.

    It's been said that well over half the exit nodes are run by the government. It's also been said that exit connections can easily be associated with entrance connections when you happen through those.

    Yes, when using .onion destinations, I believe those security risks don't apply.

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 14 06:59:55 2024
    Re: Brave browser
    By: Dumas Walker to PHIGAN on Fri Sep 13 2024 08:36 am

    There is WebKit. Epiphany is based on it. However, it could very well be another name for Chromium or Mozilla/FF for all I know. :)

    yeah Webkit is a nice backup to have, but kinda sux if you try using it as your primary. It does work when something like Librewolf fails.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HALIAN on Sat Sep 14 10:04:00 2024
    WebKit is the browser engine underpinning Safari, as well as the
    browsers built into the PS3/Nintendo 3DS and onward.

    Good to know!


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Sep 14 10:45:00 2024
    But isn't there more confidence in privacy and encryted
    sessions when using .onion destinations?

    if it's going through us govt nodes then encryption and privacy is probably useless.

    I think it is based on govt tech but that the nodes that most users use are
    not govt systems... unless you are implying that they are the actual source
    of the dark web (which is interesting and possible).


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PHIGAN on Sun Sep 15 09:49:00 2024
    There is WebKit. Epiphany is based on it. However, it could very well be another name for Chromium or Mozilla/FF for all I know. :)

    yeah Webkit is a nice backup to have, but kinda sux if you try using it as you
    primary. It does work when something like Librewolf fails.

    I have found that Epiphany chokes on some sites but it works way better, speedwise, on machines with fewer cores or less memory and in situations
    where I need something a little more powerful than links2.


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